Three common misperceptions about our international work

December 7, 2017 | Author: Dr. Andrew Padmos

Dear colleagues,

We feel privileged to be in a position to help global partners working in medical education, by sharing our knowledge, experience, best practices and standards.

Over the years, I’ve encountered both support and enthusiasm, but also some false perceptions, about the Royal College’s international work. While I’ve responded individually to these queries, I wish to reaffirm some of my previous positions and use this message as an opportunity to debunk some common misunderstandings I’ve heard voiced by Fellows.

I hope that, in doing so, you will come to share my excitement about these efforts.


Andrew Padmos, BA, MD, FRCPC, FACP
Chief Executive Officer

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Myth 1: Our international work is entirely funded by Fellow dues.

While this is a longstanding belief, it does not tell the full story. The Royal College’s international outreach services are managed by Royal College International, a wholly-owned not-for-profit subsidiary of the Royal College. From the outset of our international expansion, we took the position that our international consulting activities would be structured using a cost-recovery business model to ensure member dues do not fund this work. With the success of our engagements to date, we are now entering a phase of our international operations where this model is a reality. Royal College International has paid off all of its start-up loans and will inject a small surplus into the Royal College reserves in 2017 and into the foreseeable future based upon our forecasting. We are looking at those funds to also support growth in our international development and collaboration activities, targeting low and middle income countries.

Myth 2: We are biased in our selection of global partners.

Our international efforts take two forms: international consulting (e.g. our work in China, Latin America and the Middle East) and international development and collaboration (e.g. our work in Haiti, Nepal, Senegal, etc.). To date, most of our partners have reached out to us because of past exposure to, or experience with, our Canadian postgraduate medical education system. We have always evaluated opportunities presented to us against a set of criteria that includes whether our prospective partners’ goals are aligned with both our organizational and Canadian values, and fall within our educational mandate. In fact, we are formalizing “engagement criteria” that will provide further guidance and direction for our future consulting and developmental projects.

I believe that our International Medical Education Leaders Forum (IMELF) series of regional meetings, more than anything else in the next few years, will also serve to not only facilitate dialogue across and between regions, but also open up extended collaborations. We have IMELF meetings planned next year in Kuwait, Australia, South Africa, Sweden, China and Mexico.

Myth 3: We turn a blind eye to human rights abuses in partner countries and we neglect domestic issues.

At issue here is discomfort with the countries in which we are working (Saudi Arabia and China are primarily called into question). I’ve also heard the reverse claim that we prioritize global solutions and neglect domestic ones (in particular, the plight of Indigenous people and their health inequality). I’d like to address both aspects, starting with our global partners.

Canada’s borders have long been open to the free flow of knowledge and people — including medical graduates and physicians. Data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information in 2015 found that there are about 82,000 physicians in Canada — 26% of whom are international medical graduates. As many of you know, I have also benefitted from global mobility. I lived in Riyadh with my family and practiced hematology at King Faisal Specialist Hospital and Research Centre for 15 years (1978-1993). This is a reality that we must recognize and work within. Closing our borders and insulating ourselves is both impossible and rarely serves anyone well in the long term.

Some members feel that we should not be working in countries where human rights are challenged, but to them I say: consider the positive influence of our Canadian Fellows working alongside medical faculty and patients in these countries.

I’ll use Saudi Arabia as an example.

Canada has been the preferred location for residency training for at least 4000 Saudi physicians for 40 years. These physicians return home with their families and a stream of new ideas and experiences. It is these same individuals who reach out to us for assistance in influencing their institutions’ training standards and integrating Canadian learnings.

We have more than 300 active members working in Saudi Arabia. While we began our international work in Saudi Arabia in response to an invitation, we have rapidly expanded to China and South America and will expand more in the future.

I don’t believe that quality care should be dependent on where you live. Globally, we talk a lot about education diplomacy: the idea that education is a human right and that education facilitates the attainment of other basic needs, not to mention positive change and innovation. To many, education and health are seen as basic human rights. It is in this spirit that we endeavour to be an enabler: that through shared learning on how we operate in Canada, global partner institutions can adapt their training to better service their population needs. It is no different than sharing how to perform a new surgical technique or medical procedure or treatment. Patients benefit exponentially. We also learn a great deal from our global partners, take key learning home and benefit from these exchanges.

At the end of the day, we are about people. We are about education. We are about capacity-building. We are about care.

On the question of why do we work internationally when there are lingering issues here at home, I say that’s a simplistic view. It’s not one thing over the other. While I firmly believe in the value of our global efforts, I am equally passionate about Canadian health care and training; that is the Royal College’s primary focus day-in-and-day-out.

We recently announced a ground-breaking decision to move forward with integrating Indigenous health curriculum into postgraduate medical education, to try and influence greater consideration of cultural safety and respect of Indigenous values in the provision of health care services. We use our Dr. Thomas Dignan Indigenous Health Award to raise the profile of such work. We are also working tirelessly in our health human resource data collection, specialist employment study and related efforts to help us highlight needs and gaps, and influence dialogue on better access to necessary care (whether urban, rural or remote). All of this work is ongoing and I am heartened by the many partners and collaborators we have in our efforts.

To summarize, our international presence is complementary to our national initiatives. In many ways, this work informs and energizes our domestic activities.


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Masis Perk | March 1, 2018
Sadly, believing that " we are the world leader in education " and being a world leader in education are two different things. Those who have a passion to share their knowledge with the next generation should be encouraged to do so. On a personal note, I have made several attempts to contribute to education in the past 20 years under the college's umbrella but unfortunately I did not even get one response. Instead, I organized courses in 4 provinces under the banner of " The Great Republic of Medicine " and taught to European residents. If the rest of the world is so hungry for and appreciative of learning , yet we have to beg to teach under our own organization's umbrella, does it really matter how we see ourselves in the mirror ??. It's time to be honest at least with ourselves. It's time to stop insulting some members' intelligence.
Dr. Andrew Padmos | March 26, 2018
Hi Dr. Perk, I was able to retrieve two communications from you to the College in May of 2012 and July of 2016. I am sorry that you did not receive the courtesy of a reply; that was my oversight. Our membership exceeds 50,000 and about 4,000 Fellows regularly work in behalf of the College on a wide variety of assignments from examinations to committees. However, at least until now, the College has not been asked to arrange clinical education sessions as you have volunteered to provide. Of course I know that our Fellows are in demand for clinical work and teaching, but the College’s outreach has been focused on standards and management of PGME and CPD. Perhaps that will change. Please keep an eye on our communications and I will be sure to mark you down as interested in cardiology teaching. Best wishes, Andrew.
Dr Mohamed(Mo) Manji | February 1, 2018
As you might be aware I have worked overseas in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Kenya. Our Royal Collegue and its fellows are very well respected and recognised. My question is whether the fellows overseas work, which would include teaching etc ( preferably in a well recognised instituition) is being recognised by our Canadian provincial Colleges for promotions. So has that question been raised with them during your meetings. Dr Mo Manji Radiation Oncologist.
Royal College | March 21, 2018
Hi Dr. Manji, I don’t recall a discussion specific to this point, though I would imagine that all aspects of a fellow or applicant’s work and volunteerism would be considered during such a process. – Dr. Andrew Padmos
Brian Clapson | December 10, 2017
Andrew: Well spoke and so timely. As someone who has benefited from being a Royal College graduate, participated within residency training as well as many aspects of our organization, wider involvement with the world is a natural extension. Just as our society's norms have evolved and changed in my career, so will the countries that we are either now working with or will in the future. This is a great example of our "College" not only talking the talk, but walking the walking! I look forward to a positive and challenging 2018, knowing that our members and staff will continue to do "the right thing". Brian Clapson Saskatoon
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
Thank you, Brian. Your encouragement and support are appreciated. –Andrew
Carolyn Baer | December 10, 2017
I too have indicated interest and filled out forms numerous times and have never received a reply.It seems there are volunteers available. Perhaps some dialogue with interested members would be useful.
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
Hi Carolyn, as I’ve mentioned in comments below, we are in the process of improving our volunteer management processes. I’m sorry for the frustration. I foresee many more opportunities in the future; the interest from our members has been encouraging and considerable. I hope we can begin pairing individuals with new opportunities soon. - Andrew
Dr Mobolaji Lawal | December 9, 2017
Excellent activities! Please keep doing what you are doing. I am an international medical graduate and I can tell you Canadian post graduate medical training is highly regarded worldwide.
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
Thank you, Mobolaji. That’s always nice feedback to hear. - Andrew
Indira pachai | December 9, 2017
Is work in the international community limited to certain individuals or are opportunities open to all fellows . If so then the Royal college should let all fellows know what is available . I am interested ,as a paediatrician,in potential service . Including local indigenous opportunities
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
Hi Indira, thank you for your question. Given the speed with which our international work has developed, we have not yet created a space on our website to promote burgeoning opportunities. If you have not already filled out a Volunteer Profile Form (, I’d advise you do so. As part of our ongoing Volunteer Management Program, we are working to streamline our recruitment processes and better match individuals to opportunities. We home to make headway soon. - Andrew
Robert D Wagman | December 9, 2017
Very interesting & telling that you refuse to post my message. Shame on you.
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
Just to clarify, your comment was simply held in a queue until after the weekend when it could be reviewed and posted. (All comments posted after business hours experience this delay). We are not in the habit of blocking comments, unless they are spam, which is a considerable problem when the commenting function includes no moderation step. I’m sorry you read something untoward in that delay. - Andrew
Robert D. Wagman, MD,FRCSC | December 9, 2017
What do you say to Jewish fellows who are not welcome to participate in Kuwait & Saudi Arabia strictly based on religious discrimination?
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
We work in many countries, not only in the Middle East. Each one has its own complexities. That is why we evaluate prospective volunteers and match them with appropriate opportunities. We are not in the business of international advocacy, rather education diplomacy. While I’m hopeful that exposure and experience with our Canadian system may bring about changes from the inside out, we cannot force these issues. At the end of the day, we are about people – the people we partner with to build internal capacity to deliver better care. I know this answer is not likely to satisfy you. If you would like to discuss this further, please send me an email at and we can set up a call. – Andrew
Zahir Moloo | December 8, 2017
I am currently working in Kenya as a pathologist. Look forward to implementing the College’s rollout of competency based assessment (with your permission and support) whenever it’s ready / Zahir
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
Hi Zahir, please email so we can connect you with our Competence by Design team. - Andrew
Peter Chan | December 8, 2017
Well said Andrew! In a small city in Yunnan, China bordering on Myanmar where I have been doing voluntary anaesthesia work, nobody knows who Trudeau (senior or Junior), Mulroney or Joe Clark is, BUT they know who Norman Bethune is!
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
Incredible, isn’t it? Thanks for reading and commenting. - Andrew
Suzanne Allain | December 8, 2017
I have indicated my interest in helping in the Royal College’s international work several times over the years and filled out several surveys but have not heard back
Dr. Andrew Padmos | January 2, 2018
Hi Suzanne, I apologize for the frustration – the interest from Fellows has been beyond our expectations! We have been working to streamline our processes and better pair interested Fellows with opportunities for which they are qualified. As our international work is maturing, I foresee new opportunities on the horizon. If you haven’t already done so, please fill in our Volunteer Profile Form ( If you’d like more details or to speak with someone on our team, please email – Andrew